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The other reason that I think most vaccine research should be shelved is the drive to use fear to sell them, this is implemented by manipulating ignorant parents to vaccinate their children against diseases that are generally not dangerous for children and generally provide greater immunity in adult hood than a vaccine.

Being as vaccines are used on healthy individuals using them in a RCT is very slow and expensive because you need to use a large pool of people that "might" become exposed to the condition you are trying to prevent. This means a massive number of people that need to provide informed consent.

The problem again is the children. They cannot give consent and they are the target market. This neds to end now. I wrote my thoughts on the matter here on SubStack.

https://cholecalciferol.substack.com/p/the-ethics-of-medical-trials-need

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Then of course there is the lingering suspicion that vaccines are not very useful in public health outcomes.

I heard of a trial done years ago, perhaps 1970's that I have not been able to find again, may have been a WHO program or whatever. They had 3 villages in South America, Africa or Asia, I forget which but all three very similar to start with. They tried two interventions and left the third village as a control. First village was thoroughly vaccinated, second village was provided front line health care in the form of clinics and nurses. Outcome was interesting, perhaps no surprise to many but I was sufficiently jaded with vaccines already that it was not a shock. Vaccines had a worse outcome than clinics but was cheaper. Both were an improvement on doing nothing. Vaccines were easier to profit from so I suppose that was the chosen paradigm.

More recently I think in 2022/3 a paper from I think India compared benefits of vaccination to increased access to clean water and enough food. The clean water and food had better childhood disease outcomes than the vaccines. This paper should be locatable with a judicious search. Basically the same result, vaccines help (short term at least, some research points to negative longer term benefits) but improving conditions helps more. It is just not as easy to make money from water supplies as it is from automated vial filling machine output.

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